CTF Mappool

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Description said I could talk about whatever I wished. So I am here to talk about weights in ctf mappool currently in use.
Updated on: 2018/04/01. Original post:
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Tier S: (weight 7)
ctf4
illimiran

Tier A: (weight 4)
ansion2
carratos
dantooine
dosuun
kothis
manaan
sikurd
talay
hagrent

Tier B: (weight 3)
kejim
krildor
ramodi
salliche
ziost

Tier F: (weight 1)
byss
corellia
kharzet
metalorn
nelvaan
paulking
sileron
taloraan
talravin
telti
emerido
kadavo
belgaroth
trieron
orion
reboam
korriban2
ilum
genarious
elrood

Tier S: (weight 11)
illimiran
ctf4

Tier A: (weight 6)
ansion2
carratos
dantooine
dosuun
hagrent
kejim
kothis
manaan
sikurd
talay

Tier B: (weight 4)
corellia
krildor
ramodi
salliche
ziost

Tier F+: (weight 2)
byss
emerido
nelvaan
reboam
ilum
paulking

Tier F: (weight 1)
kharzet
metalorn
sileron
taloraan
talravin
telti
kadavo
belgaroth
trieron
orion
korriban2
genarius
elrood
tozeer
hevil

Changes:
  • Moved kejim up from Tier B to Tier A. Based on community feedback.
  • Moved corellia up from Tier F to Tier B. Map seems popular enough to give it a chance in Tier B.
  • Separated Tier F into 2 tiers. It felt wrong to have 20 maps in a single tier, especially given the huge disparity between them.
  • Added Refinery on Yalara (by grab), and Tozeer Refugee (by speedy) to Tier F. Since individual percentage from Tier F dropped (from 1.18% to 0.77%), I felt some more maps could be added.
  • Adjusted weight numbers. This way tiers, and individual maps retain their intended percentage.

Percentages:
  • Tier S has 17% chances of being randomised (up from 16.47%). Individual maps in it have 8.52% chances of being randomised (up from 8.23%).
  • Tier A has 46.51% chances (up from 42.35%). Individual maps in it have 4.65% chances (down from 4.7%).
  • Tier B has 15.5% chances (down from 17.65%). Individual maps in it have 3.1% chances (down from 3.53%).
  • Tier F+ has 9.3% chances, and individual maps in it have 1.55% chances.
  • Tier F has 11.6% chances, and individual maps in it have 0.77%.
  • Tier F+ and Tier F have 20.93% chances (down from 23.53%).
Last edited by hannah on Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:54 am, edited 1 time in total.

Re: CTF Mappool

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Onasi, were you the one who decided on this garbage? Why is kiejim so low? CTF4 is the most garbage map ever created. It takes 0 skill. Get Ziost out of the keijim weight. That shouldn't even have a weight, as it isn't a 4s map. Swap keijim and CTF4. I'm ok with ilimiran, but move keijim up. Move telti up to B and move Salliche down to F. Also, now that I look at it more, how the fuck is Manaan above keijim and krildor. This pool is very biased. Everyone hates Manaan. Please, put up a vote for this or something. These are garbage weights.

Re: CTF Mappool

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Yea I figured kejim would be brought up. It actually had the lowest possible weights for a good while, back then when random vote was just for 1 map. Funny thing is that it was still the most played map, mostly due to direct votes. After the 4 map random vote was implemented, a few rng related bugs were fixed by alpha, which is when I last modified these weights. I moved up kejim one tier so it would reflect the community's opinion better, but I was still concerned about kejim being overplayed.

People just use random vote now so it balanced itself out. I guess I could move it up one tier, but I feel like it won't really achieve what you are hoping for. Currently kejim has 3.5% chances of being randomised, and in tier A that would be 4.6%. Still every bit helps I suppose?

As for ctf4, I think it makes sense to have it in Tier S, as it has always been considered the most skillful map. Plus it doesn't get voted all the time so I don't see the harm.

Manaan I see frequently voted for, and played. I would certainly not say it's universally hated, but at the very least it's definitely way more played than krildor.

And as for ziost, I have played countless 4s games on it, even before random vote was implemented, it would be voted directly every now and then. It was never a mainstream map, but it was definitely for 4s.

Re: CTF Mappool

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Mappool has been updated, see first post.

Changes:
  • Moved kejim up from Tier B to Tier A. Based on community feedback.
  • Moved corellia up from Tier F to Tier B. Map seems popular enough to give it a chance in Tier B.
  • Separated Tier F into 2 tiers. It felt wrong to have 20 maps in a single tier, especially given the huge disparity between them.
  • Added Refinery on Yalara (by grab), and Tozeer Refugee (by speedy) to Tier F. Since individual percentage from Tier F dropped (from 1.18% to 0.77%), I felt some more maps could be added.
  • Adjusted weight numbers. This way tiers, and individual maps retain their intended percentage.

Re: CTF Mappool

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Onasi wrote: Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:56 am Mappool has been updated, see first post.

Changes:
  • Moved kejim up from Tier B to Tier A. Based on community feedback.
  • Moved corellia up from Tier F to Tier B. Map seems popular enough to give it a chance in Tier B.
  • Separated Tier F into 2 tiers. It felt wrong to have 20 maps in a single tier, especially given the huge disparity between them.
  • Added Refinery on Yalara (by grab), and Tozeer Refugee (by speedy) to Tier F. Since individual percentage from Tier F dropped (from 1.18% to 0.77%), I felt some more maps could be added.
  • Adjusted weight numbers. This way tiers, and individual maps retain their intended percentage.
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